在刑事诉讼中,证据是惩罚犯罪分子、保障无罪的人不受刑事追究的关键。但在司法实践中,证人出庭制度不完善,辩护律师的核实证据权也无法得到保障,严重影响被告人、辩护人辩护权的行使,甚至影响司法公正,造成冤假错案。就如何完善刑事诉讼中的证人出庭制度,保障辩护律师的核实证据权,本刊记者在两会期间对全国政协委员、国浩律师(成都)事务所合伙人施杰律师进行了专访。 In criminal proceedings, evidence is the key to punishing criminals and protecting innocent people from criminal prosecution. However, in the judicial practice, the system of witnesses ’appearances in court is not perfect, and the right of defense counsel to verify evidence can not be guaranteed, which seriously affects the exercise of the defendants’ rights of defense and even affect the judicial impartiality, resulting in unjustly wrongful cases. On the issue of how to improve the system of witness appearance in criminal proceedings and safeguard the defense of defense lawyers, the reporter interviewed Mr. Shi Jie, member of the CPPCC National Committee and partner of Guoco Law Firm (Chengdu) during the two sessions.