李德南:徯晗好,之前跟你就文学有过不少交流,这次想聊得集中些,主要谈谈小说创作中“新”与“旧”的问题。这几年,批评界颇为关注文学的变革和走向,比如城市文学和乡土文学的问题。有一段时间,有的批评家觉得写乡土的作品太多了些,写城市的又太少,文学的构成跟我们当下的生活状况好像有某种程度的脱节,文学的变化赶不上现实的变化。又比如先锋文学,去年围绕着先锋文学有几次大的会议,不少杂志也推出了这方面的专辑。我们知道,先锋文 Li Denan: Well Han is good. I had a lot of exchanges with you on literature before. I wanted to talk a little bit more this time. I mainly talked about the issue of “new” and “old” in the creation of fiction. In recent years, critics have paid great attention to the changes and trends in literature, such as urban literature and local literature. For a certain period of time, some critics think that there are too many works to write in the native land and too few to write in the cities. The composition of literature seems to be somewhat out of touch with the present conditions in our life. The changes in literature can not keep up with the changes in reality. Another example is the avant-garde literature, there are several major conferences around the avant-garde literature last year, many magazines have also launched this album. We know that pioneer