时间:2016年5月20日地点:中国民族博物馆对话人:张荣德(人类学者)张:我们从上世纪80年代初你刚进藏时开始?翟:可以。张:我感觉比较惊奇的是:你们到西藏以后,还是能及时地掌握内地的美术动向和信息,跟内地美术保持联动,“85美术”运动还有一定程度的参与。这个在高名潞主编的《“85美术”运动》里,还是能看得出来。翟:对,那时没有手机,《新闻联播》都是一 Time: May 20, 2016 Venue: China Nationalities Museum Interlocutor: Zhang Rongde (Anthropologist) Zhang: Since the beginning of the 1980s, have you just started to visit Tibet? Zhai: Yes. Zhang: I feel quite surprised that after you arrived in Tibet, you could master the art trends and information in the Mainland in a timely manner and keep in touch with the mainland fine arts. There is also a certain degree of participation in the “85 Art Movement”. This can be seen in the “85” Art Movement "edited by Gao Minglu. Zhai: Yes, there was no mobile phone at that time and News Network was one