刘:最近看到你谈“国家戏剧”的那个对话有些启发,我经常画些“舞台布景”,有时候可能做个“道具”出来,不管做什么,都很符合真实的表演需要。张:对,整个大剧院的人都是有始无终的的演员,没人能够逃脱,没人能够豁免,角色或大或小,戏份或多或少,每个人都在戏里。大家扮演别人规定的角色,遵循剧本的规定,这一基本情 Liu: I was inspired to see you talking about “Theatricals” recently. I often draw “stage sets” and sometimes I might be a “prop” out of the box. Whatever I do, I am in tune with the real performance needs. Zhang: Yes, people in the Grand Theater are endless actors. No one can escape. No one can be exempted. The characters are either larger or smaller. More or less, everyone is in the play. We play the role of other people’s provisions, follow the provisions of the script, this basic situation