张献民:依我看来,中国社会在过去的三五十年里,能够形成大的文化运动的东西里面,首先有一个文学的,以诗歌为表率吧,加一小部分短篇小说。后来是摇滚和当代艺术。当代艺术是绘画和行为艺术等综合的一个东西。再后来影像越来越突出。你恰巧利用了三种媒介吧,你倒没有做摇滚、音乐这些事情,但是诗歌、绘画和影像,这三者你都碰上了。对你来说,你的诗歌阶段和油画阶段是不是完全重合的?对你个人而言,这三种媒介是不 Zhang Xianmin: In my opinion, in the past 30 or 50 years, Chinese society can form a big cultural movement. First of all, there is a literature, poetry as an example, plus a small part of short stories. Later was rock and contemporary art. Contemporary art is a composite of painting and performance art. Then the image is more and more prominent. You happen to use three media, you do not do rock music, music, but poetry, painting and video, all three of you run into. For you, does your poetry stage and the painting stage completely coincide? For you personally, these three mediums are not