理想与现实的矛盾UED:来到北京市建筑设计研究院(以下简称“北京院”)以后,您遇到了怎样的机遇与挑战,如何从众多人才中脱颖而出?叶依谦:我1996年刚入院的时候,北京院早一批的总建筑师柴裴义、何玉如、刘力、马国馨等都还在院里,我们比较幸运能受惠于老总们的指导。他们当时都是50多岁,在经验、阅历等各个方面都处在一个最高最好的状态下,得到他们的指 Conflict between Ideal and Reality UED: How did you meet the challenges and opportunities that come to Beijing Institute of Architectural Design & Research (hereinafter referred to as “Beijing Institute”)? How to stand out from the crowd? YE: I was admitted to hospital in 1996 At that time, the chief architects of Chai Peiyi, He Yuru, Liu Li and Ma Guoxin of Beijing Institute were still in the courtyard as early as possible. We are fortunate to have benefited from the guidance of veterans. At that time, they were all in their fifties and were in the highest and best state in their experience, experience and other aspects, getting their fingers