记者：几十年来国有企业经历了利改税、厂长经理承包责任制、股份制试点等改革，虽然取得了显著的效果，但是始终未能解决国有企业低效益的问题。目前，国有企业亏损面越来越大，企业长期低效益的配置状态亟须得到实质性的改善。围绕着提高国有企业的效益问题，理论界有许多建 Reporter: For decades, state-owned enterprises have experienced reforms such as tax reforms, manager responsibility for contracting projects, and joint-stock pilots. Although they have achieved remarkable results, they have not been able to solve the problem of low efficiency of state-owned enterprises. At present, the loss of state-owned enterprises is increasing, and the long-term, low-benefit configuration of enterprises needs to be substantially improved. Around the issue of improving the efficiency of state-owned enterprises, there are many theoretical circles